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hello welcome to another edition of

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knight of the triangles i'm emily

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williams mike munder's behind the camera

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there and

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we're looking again at the night of the

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19th of january 1983.

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now up to now we've contacted some

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witnesses from the swansea area

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but apparently on that night reports

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were made in cardiff

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cambron and even martha tidwell but

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today we're

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here at a place called underwood which

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is on the east side of newport

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to meet jonathan davis who's got a very

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interesting case

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uh report from when he was 15 years old

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and uh jonathan's here today

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meeting us at the exact place he was

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when he had his sighting so here's

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jonathan

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can you tell us what all about it yeah

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sure

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um yeah like i say i was 15 years old um

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i can tell you why i know the dates et

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cetera but we can go into that later um

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basically i found myself in this field

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um on a cold night 19th january was

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freezing cold

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there was a mist on the ground just

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below my knees

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very cold night and i had no idea how i

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got you i had no memory of the day

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at all i didn't know i mean i was 15 i

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was still in school i didn't remember

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going to school that day

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i didn't have any memory i literally was

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in this field

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and i was stood looking at the woods

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on the opposite side and thinking what

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the hell am i doing in this field

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yeah how did i get here and then there's

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i'm looking

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them thinking wow look at them stars

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and just as i'm thinking look at them

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stars all these stars moved

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every single one of them the whole sky

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was what i thought was stars they

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weren't stars at all

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um it was literally um

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either one wedge-shaped craft a giant

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wedge street craft that was

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as far as i could see that direction and

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it was

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overlapping the woods that direction

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it must be miles wide basically right um

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no i'm not sure if it was three of these

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craft or one because it was like banks

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of

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you know lights like that one two

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small white lights in a wedge shape but

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there was one

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two three like that so it was either one

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giant craft

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i mean i couldn't see stars between them

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so it might have been one giant craft or

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three wedge-shaped crafts inverted

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so that basically i'm i'm still going to

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be pointing upwards like that

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no they were pointing towards that

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direction

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like that and plugged in west yeah

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pointing towards newport

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yeah so i'm looking at this thinking oh

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my god what

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you know i didn't have a clue where it

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would have happened that day um

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anyway i watched i watched the lights

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move away and they were going very

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slowly it was

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it was absolute silence not a whisper it

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was like i was in a bubble

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you know when i watched these where i

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thought originally were stars they

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weren't they were

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small lights in the shape of a wedge

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move away it was huge

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and and i look to my right and i realize

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where i am because the leisure center or

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the old leisure center as it now

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was had the outside lights were on so i

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got my bearings then

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and i literally pegged it to run home

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and then as i'm running there's like

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mist you know you can imagine it around

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my feet as i'm running

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i mean there's a riverboat that's been

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really scary for a 15 year old oh you're

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on your own i didn't have a clue

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i mean i was literally so what was he

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recording what was the last recollection

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of what was before that

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i didn't have any i didn't even remember

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the day before well you said you

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you knew it was a wednesday because the

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following morning your mother asked you

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about cleaning your

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football boots yeah that's right my

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rugby boots you're right rugby on a

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wednesday on a wednesday so then

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wednesday

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places that's the only reason that i

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knew that it was a wednesday that this

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occurred so you did because of that you

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know you've been in school

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you've finished school well i assume

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i've obviously been to school

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i've got no memory of going to school

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but i didn't have my school uniform on i

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was um

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i'd obviously gone home from school got

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changed

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and either gone out or something else

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had happened and i

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i was in a jeans and a t-shirt but i was

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but it was a middle of winter and i had

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a t-shirt

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did you have rugby did you do rugby that

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no i've got no idea i've got no idea but

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i must have done rugby because my rugby

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boots were dirty so he must have been

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after you

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after the rugby yeah i played i've got i

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played rugby in school that day

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and i've got the bus home and i've come

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home and then after that

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nothing i've got nothing for the whole

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day what time is it when he got home

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can you remember it would have been

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caldecott schools that is the comp so it

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would have been about 40 minutes to get

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back so

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through about four o'clock i would have

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been home yeah and then

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um get changed half four say i must have

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had food as well because my mum didn't

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say where were you for tea last night

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you know so i must have had food and

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then whatever happened after that i

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haven't got a clue

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oh i got my memory so then you're here

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and then you run home what yeah what

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time was it when you got home um

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well i don't know what time it was but i

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didn't see anyone it was there was

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nobody out i mean it must have been

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fairly late in the evening but all the

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lights are still on in the houses

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but i as i'm running home and you've

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seen this quite a big estate

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you'd expect to see people i didn't see

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a single person and i run all the way

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home

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get up by my front door and thinking

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i'm going to get in trouble here i must

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have because i've got no memory i might

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have done something

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so i think i'll go around the back so i

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went around the back of the house

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because you can go around the back of

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the house in the woods and then into my

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garden

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i used whenever i was naughty i'd climb

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up the drain pipe and i'd sneak in

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through the bathroom window that's

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exactly what i did so because i didn't

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want my mum

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catching me out yeah so i climbed very

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pipe

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uh got in went to bed and i thought i'm

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gonna get it in the morning

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and i was expecting to get it in the

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morning you know i must have done

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something i was thinking

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so five minutes how far is the house

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well uh maybe a mile and a half

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maybe a mile and a half but literally i

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got no

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no memory of this at all apart from

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standing here at that point and then

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seeing that craft

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seeing my environment suddenly feeling

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cold

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silent

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yeah and um it was like this thing

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didn't make a sound

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not a sound there was no wind there was

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there was literally i mean this

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year the birds never i mean okay it was

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an evening so maybe the birds don't

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chatter then but not so it was a clear

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sky but you couldn't see stars

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yeah i could see stars until after it

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had moved away

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but you couldn't see them between these

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no sort of chevron which is why

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i've said was it one craft giant or was

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three wedge i'm not sure i'm not sure so

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these rows of lights were shaped like

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that and they were they were all

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pointing that way

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yeah if you if you think of the phoenix

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lights but think of the lights as being

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that's exactly what it was like so wedge

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shaped like the phoenix lights

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but two rows of them two rows yeah

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there's one so i can see the shape

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that's why i could see the shape of the

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wedge because there were

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literally a bang flight and then another

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bank of lights yeah

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and then was there anything on the ends

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i couldn't really see the ends

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because it was it was so far that way

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and so far that way i couldn't really

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see the ends but

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so over the over the houses that way and

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as far as the woods were there

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past the woods huge

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yeah so i mean and it was very high

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as well it wasn't that's why i thought

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originally it was stars

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yeah but it was so high so if it was

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that high and it covered that sort of

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bit of skull yeah

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it was even bigger than that like if

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you'd been like 100 foot up

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that's big colossal it's really high

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it's even bigger like 50 aircraft

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carriers

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size that's so big it was colossal

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yeah i think um so far in the night of

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the triangles all the witnesses that's

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by far the biggest scene

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yeah there's been a few big ones

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mentioned some yeah

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yeah um natalie said it was over the

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streets

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yeah and it was big and she only saw the

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center of it yeah and she said it was

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very quiet

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and she didn't feel cold until after it

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had gone

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that's when she did could you feel cold

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when it was there

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no there was no there was nothing it was

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like i was in a bubble like it was like

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yeah

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i was away from everything and i was

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just like

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in a dull sort of days looking at this

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thing

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and then and then it's when i walk sort

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of thing if you know i i was alert like

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it's going it's gone i can move yeah and

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that's when i looked to my right and i

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saw where i was that's when you felt

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cold

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and then i was freezing it's just like

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and then i said i realized

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yes what's going on i got my t-shirt on

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in the middle of winter

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yeah and i've never had a memory about

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it since

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you know people say well that sounds

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like an abduction experience but i've

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got no memory of being on board or

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anything or seeing

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anything on board or any of that apart

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from studio

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looking up can i ask you when it when it

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was going did you actually see it move

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off in the existence yeah i did

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yeah i did but i literally see where

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that cloud is there now the dark

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cloud it got to about that spot

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and i liked it right so you didn't

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actually see it

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today no i didn't wait i didn't wait i i

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literally

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and it's difficult so imagine this

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dark and cold misty

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it's very similar to what that we

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experienced

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but the mist came from the river i mean

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i thought about it later of oh the

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stream

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may have come from that but it was it

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it was very eerie

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yeah you can't remember what happened

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when he got home

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was he mother no well i i i never told

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my mother

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all right we moved i mean i never said a

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word because my mum and dad didn't say a

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word i thought i got away with it

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whatever

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was my friends in school did you mention

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it in school with your friends no

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because i

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we we literally moved i thought i was

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going nuts to be honest with you

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you know i i didn't know i didn't have a

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memory of the day

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and i didn't know what all i had a

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memory afterwards because i couldn't

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stop thinking about it

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no it was it was really getting to me in

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it but then we moved literally a few

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weeks later

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and i felt that i didn't have to say

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anything you know what i mean i didn't

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have to tell my friends and i didn't

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yeah so i never did i mean literally i

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told my mother about it

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nine months ago really yeah i said to my

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mum because i

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because now i've been the last two years

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i've been getting into this i hadn't

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even told her i've been getting into

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how long after the event weeks few weeks

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that's another reason why i know

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did you ever come back here i haven't

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been back here since we came back

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no i came back here i came back here

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yesterday to check the place out

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to make sure we could park and i haven't

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been back here since the day of that wow

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it's amazing yeah and it hasn't changed

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a bit apart from the weather hasn't

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changed a bit apart from the

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center shutting down it hasn't changed a

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bit

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yeah no no no difference at all there is

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one report

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that was from ilfracombe that there was

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a massive one

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seeing going up the bristol channel

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towards cardiff

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we haven't been able to confirm that

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it's just secondhand news we were given

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so we like to confirm do research to

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confirm that it was in the papers et

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cetera et cetera

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enough but we but we can't uh i'd love

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to hear that if somebody could tell me

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that they saw the same thing yeah

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apparently it was two witnesses so it

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was a fisherman

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fishing on officium off the rocks

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and somebody else apparently saw it as

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well so it's two

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separate witnesses but we can't confirm

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because we can't

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can't find them and get all you know

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can't we even went to a

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balanceable library to do research to me

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about it

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we couldn't find anything but we were

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told it was in the papers

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over the next few days

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yeah did this event sort of

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uh start any interest in ufo subject

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with you i'd already been

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um and that this was this wasn't my

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first

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you know i'd i've been since a little

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child i've been seeing things

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i would um you know i'd float to the

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ceiling in my bedroom

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mm-hmm i know it says you know

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but i'd i'd have always followed me

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around i wouldn't have

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many friends when i was a kid because it

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was um it was too strange

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i'd be i'd go out on my own in the

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fields and

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i'd have white orbs following me around

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i go into the woods and they change

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color the red

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you know i had an appendice um incident

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where i

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literally i was out shooting my air gun

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in the middle of the forest

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and um i collapsed because my penis was

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about to burst

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and as i'm on the floor i get surrounded

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by orbs

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you know so i've i've always seen orbs

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but

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strangely enough the little ones i

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haven't seen since the appendicitis

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thing happened i've never i've never

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seen the little one since i only see the

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big ones now

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yeah don't see the like chris bledsoe

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forever saying

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he sees all these little orange orbs

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just in the trees coming down to him and

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think i don't see any of those

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but i do see these giant fan size

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orange ones red ones white ones i

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do know there was uh you did report one

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back in 2010

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isn't it you were living in landing more

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than north carolina yeah and um

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i think we'll be doing a follow-up film

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about that

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yes yeah we'll do it another day uh

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just obviously jonathan is actually

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joining us as a researcher because he's

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uh he's very

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active in his own research and being at

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this

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to have somebody looking at

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stuff done this way so welcome to

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souffon brilliant

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thanks guys can i just ask you when

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you would sort of woke up if you like in

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this field and you saw this thing

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yeah what sort of duration of time was

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it between then and when

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when you ran away it was going really

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slowly so

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i mean to get to that spot it would have

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literally taken a couple of minutes

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it was literally hanging and hanging in

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the sky

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and just drifting sort of thing and then

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it finally get there and i'm just

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i've watched it in total and then it

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suddenly hit me

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hang on this is a bit dodgy i'd rather

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go

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sorry literally that's when i pegged it

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so a couple of minutes couple of minutes

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and then

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i don't know five minutes ten minutes

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max to get home

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and i'm in bed and that was it and then

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and literally i haven't been back here

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it sounds like you had a couple of hours

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missing there really

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because you've you can't remember be

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getting there and then you can remember

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going home and then going to bed so

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i've told this story to a couple of

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people and they seem to think that i

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should get hypnotized but i've always

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wanted to avoid that

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you've got to be quite i want to avoid

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it yeah you know because

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people will think i'm lying because i

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don't want to hear anything bad

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yeah you've got to be the moment i

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haven't got a bad experience

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and i prefer to keep it that way yes you

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know what i mean i don't want to be

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waking up in the middle of the night

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yeah yeah yeah yeah we've met quite a

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few people now we're missing simon

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a lot of saying the same thing we don't

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really really

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dig in too deep because i've only ever

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had good experiences you know

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yeah i will discuss another time with

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when we're not off camera

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something that happened that wasn't a

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good experience but um

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yeah every other experience been great

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i've had no issues and i enjoy seeing

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them

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see a video of mine you hear my voice

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and my breathing go up because i get

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excited by seeing it okay you know i do

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i can't help it

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i enjoy it i literally i'm smiling i'm

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thanking them

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and i'm in my head yeah yeah yeah yeah

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yeah

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so you would you class yourself with a

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very spiritual person

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yeah spiritually not religious do you

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need psychic abilities

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um i'm i'm very very

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good at guessing let's put it that way

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yeah intuition

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ridiculously good i guess intuition yeah

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i'll know if there's a hint of a story

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coming out i'll know what it is before

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anyone else and i'll tell that person

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that i know what it is and

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i'll say how did you know that and that

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happens all the time

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yeah and the big stories as well before

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the triangle story came out

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um with tim mcmullen on twitter i knew

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a month before and i heard the story

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don't go t

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every bit of it in fact i've even got

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the bits that the unreleased but i know

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they're true